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When are the seven times we pasken like Beis Shamai instead of with Beis Hillel as we do all other times?And are there any other exceptions other than those seven?And when Moshiach comes, are we going...
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Beis Shamai says women have to clean for Pesach. Beis Hillel says... When Moshiach comes...
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Naysberg: There is no source anywhere whatsoever for the popular idea that L'asid Lavo we Pasken by Beis Shammai.And I think there are six (plus 18) quoted in a Tosfos on Sukkah 3a if I recall...
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How many times is R' Shimon ben Gamliel's name found in the Mishnah? What are the exceptions to the rule that the halacha does not follow R' Eliezer? If R' Yochanan and Reish Lakish have a machlokes,...
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Who said there will be mitzvos when Masiach comes(Niddah 61,Yerushalmi Megilla). According to the shitta that there will be mitzvos the Rogatchover Gaon asked a question on a suyga and explained the...
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The idea of following Beis Shammai post-Moshiach, long predates the Ragachover Gaon.
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Sam2: I believe People get from the mishna in avos 5:17 it says sofa l'skaeim.It is also brought down in the name of the Arizal. Naysberg: There were times when Beis Hillel was chozer and went like...
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Sam4: I looked for it and asked several Gedolim what the source is. I was told by several that it is just said over by the Hamon Am and no Makor really exists.
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sam4321 -I wanted to reconcile the two opinions by saying that of course the Torah will apply, but we will have advanced so far in our lomdus by then that we will be able to get out of every mitzvah. :p
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cheftze: the mention of the Rogatchover Gaon was not the source rather that he said it could only be the chumros not all their shittos.
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I've seen it mentioned in Sefarim. I just checked up Reb Reuven Margalis, and he brings this from the Sefer Vayakhel Moshe (entry 54), the Chida (Pesach Einayim on Avos Perek 5 on that Mishna of...
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HaLeivi: Correct the gemara in Nidda(61) is talking after the Resurrection. Some learn and I think this is how the Lubavitcher Rebbe learned it, before Mashiach will be like Beis Hillel and times of...
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the mesilllas yesharim says that the halacha was nikva like Beis Hilell 'la'ad ul'olmei olamim', this sounds very much not like a change le'yemos hamashiach
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Here are some sources (note 58) for the fact that Leasid Lavo the Halacha will be like Beis Shamai and a discussion about the reason for...
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Sam2: " There is no source anywhere whatsoever for the popular idea that L'asid Lavo we Pasken by Beis Shammai." Michtav M’Eliyahu (3:353): Concerning the dispute between Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel—in...
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Beware of taking these sort of statements too literally. As some have pointed out the "l'asid lavo" is discussing techiyas hameisim not the days of Moshiach. After Moshiach comes the Sanhedrin HaGadol...
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benignuman- What does confusion over the meaning of לעתיד לבוא have to do with taking things literally? Did you look up the mekoros I cited? It's actually relatively straightforward. Beis Shamai are...
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sam2- in kuntress divrei sofrim ois 15 reb elchonon discusses why losid lvo halach is like beis shamai.
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There is no source anywhere whatsoever for the popular idea that L'asid Lavo we Pasken by Beis Shammai.I think it takes a R' Moshe Feinstein (at least) to make such a statement.
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Kozov,I read your source and my explanation is in line with it if you don't take it too literally (the lasid lovo thing was only meant to clarify that we were discussing Yimos HaMishaich when the...
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DY: I know he's not R' Moshe, but I have a friend who asked Rav Chaim Kanievsky and that was the response he received.
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If anyone could make such a statement today, it would be R' Chaim, but apparently, there was some type of miscommunication.
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DY: Or he doesn't consider a source found in late Achronim to matter when no earlier sources mentioned it first.
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He doesn't profess to know by heart any Sefer. He knows all of Chazal.
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Here is another source that the Sanhedrin will be גדול בחכמה:של"ה בית דוד נ"א:בירושלמי מסכת מעשר שני (פ"ה ה"ב) במשנה, ותנאי היה, אימתי שיבנה בית המקדש יחזור הדבר לכמות שהיה. איתא שם אמר ר' אחא, זאת...
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Or he doesn't consider a source found in late Achronim to matter when no earlier sources mentioned it first.But why do you think the Rogatchaver Gaon would say or quote it?! And why do you think the...
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HaleiVi,He wouldn't have said "it is just said over by the Hamon Am", unless he knew that it wasn't found anywhere. He could only know that if he knew all legitimate sources. Since as you say, he...
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I didn't think Sam meant that Reb Chaim Kenievsky answered word for word what Reb Shachter said.I remember that when, oddly enough, they asked Reb Chaim Kanievsky what the source is for Avram Fried's...
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benignuman-just because Bais Shammai were sharper doesn't mean they were always right (or else we would pasken like them now)Actually that is not true. The Halacha was not like Beis Shamai because they...
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Sam-Or he doesn't consider a source found in late Achronim to matter when no earlier sources mentioned it first.Or he didn't know or remember. HaLeiVi I remember that as well. Hopefully this post will...
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Kozov, When we say Bais Shammai was not the majority, that means that the majority thought Bais Shammai was wrong! If we knew being sharper meant you were always right then we would always pasken like...
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benignuman- That is a good question. When you will finally read the explanation in the link provided, part ז, with the footnotes, especially 52 and 61, I am confident you will finally understand.
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I read through the entire part ז, with the footnotes and I still think I am right. All this means is that the future Bais Din HaGadol can overturn the halacha and be koveya like Bais Shammai, and given...
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Benign, what do you mean by right and wrong? It is about Beis Shammay and Beis Hillel that it especially says Eilu Va'eilu Divrei Elokim Chayim. The Gemara says we Pasken like Beis Hillel because they...
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But it is unlikely that they will overturn all of it and certainly, short of removing their bechira and individual n'tiyas neshomo, there is no way to guarantee that they will pasken like Bais Shammai...
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"No one ever said they will pasken like Bais Shammai in every instance."Oh. I thought that was what we were arguing about. I was saying that pshat is that in the future they will be able to pasken like...
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Oh. I thought that was what we were arguing about. I was saying that pshat is that in the future they will be able to pasken like Bais Shammai. You were saying pshat was that they will have to pasken...
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Kozov, On any given question, Bais Shammai might be right or might be wrong. By paskening like the Bais Hillel, the Sanhedrin of the time was declaring that it held Bais Hillel to be correct and Bais...
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